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 08/20/2004 08:55 AM

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Kitty, there is a reason why others come to you for their problems, because amidst your own you are a stronger person than what you give yourself credit for, in my humble opinion. I cna surely relate to everything you say, I have three kids myself and even with any type of injury (recent ACL, meniscus, and bone fracture) everyone also seems to come to me for everything. Don't go crazy, let it make you stronger. I try to stay away from as much meds as I possibly can because of the side effects - the ones listed and those not. I also agree with having some time to yourself, even in thought - it can work wonders. Believe in yourself and you can overcome anything that life has to throw at you. I'm not a preacher, but I don't think that we are tested beyonds our means. Resolve only makes us stronger in the long run, not only for ourselves but those around us. I have to have surgery for my injuries, and I'm already looking to get back on the proverbial horse. I also think that a good support network, whether at home or online also helps a great deal, in that you are never alone! Take care.
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 07/24/2004 11:35 AM

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kitty123

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Thanks for your suggestion. I'll give it a try. Anything is worth trying. Between the stress of pain and famly worries and worry over future surgery I think I'm going crazy sometimes. Everyone seems to come to me when they want an errand run or phone calls to be made and I can't hardly take care of myself much less everyone else. Thanks for the advice.
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 07/24/2004 11:35 AM

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kitty123

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Thanks for your suggestion. I'll give it a try. Anything is worth trying. Between the stress of pain and famly worries and worry over future surgery I think I'm going crazy sometimes. Everyone seems to come to me when they want an errand run or phone calls to be made and I can't hardly take care of myself much less everyone else. Thanks for the advice.
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 07/22/2004 10:42 AM

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Susan3914

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Hi Kitty, Just wanted to tell you that ALL narcotic pain killers make me sick. Actually, that's pretty common. The doctor gives me PROMETHAZINE to take with the Vicodin or whatever. It's similar to Dramamine. If that doesn't work, then you could try ZOFRAN, which stops vomiting. However, it is VERY expensive and my insurance won't allow but 12 at a time. I got some when I recently had shoulder surgery and the Pharmacist said 12 would cost $256.00 without insurance!!! Even with ins. the co-pay was $50. I think the Promethazine works just as well and is quite inexpensive. Call your doctor, tell them the drugs make you sick and ask for a Promethazine prescription. Post your results. Good luck.
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 07/22/2004 12:06 AM

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I had a left TKR in september 2004, my 5th surgery. And this time they used an epidural on me and I would have it any other way. Just tell your doctor you are nervous. I was not aware of anything when I had my TKR, no sound, I didn't wake up and don't remember anything. I was given a light sedative before surgery and the epidural was put in after I was asleep. I rather the epidural then the way they did it before.
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 07/17/2004 09:07 AM

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kitty123

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Hi. I don,t think my Dr. wants to give me an epidural if I have surgery and I don't know if I could handle staying awake during surgery. My pain pills quite working so he gave me some more and they make me sick even when I cut them in half. I'm afraid to tell the Dr. I'm afraid he'll think I'm just wanting more drugs so I guess I'll just have to wait a month or so before I ask for more. I just wish I could get a little more support at home but thats wishfull thinking and it's not going to happen. I don't ask much but just a little help around the house and a little understanding when I hurt. Thanks for listening.
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 07/17/2004 09:07 AM

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kitty123

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Hi. I don,t think my Dr. wants to give me an epidural if I have surgery and I don't know if I could handle staying awake during surgery. My pain pills quite working so he gave me some more and they make me sick even when I cut them in half. I'm afraid to tell the Dr. I'm afraid he'll think I'm just wanting more drugs so I guess I'll just have to wait a month or so before I ask for more. I just wish I could get a little more support at home but thats wishfull thinking and it's not going to happen. I don't ask much but just a little help around the house and a little understanding when I hurt. Thanks for listening.
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 07/16/2004 06:45 PM

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I need to vent. I have had 6 knee sugeries reconstructive surgery on both knees. Now I have had BAD pain in my left knee on my MRI report it said" severe tricompartmental degenerative change, most marked involving the patellofemoral joint." Can someone help me understand this?? Thanks so much!!!!!
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 07/14/2004 11:02 PM

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lilmonkeyshine

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Well kitty if you choose the surgery you can have the epidural which then you would not have pain they leave it in for a few days. and as wife,mother and grandmom we as woman have the bad tendancy of neglecting ourselves.Sometimes we need to step aside and do what is needed for our health.because if you dont take care of you. you won't be able to take care of anyone. You need to stop worrying about what is ahead and deal with what is in front of you. It is much easier to deal with things one at a time than trying to worry about tomorrow which hasn't arrived.
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 07/13/2004 10:49 PM

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kitty123

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Well I went to the Dr. today and he took x-rays of both knees. The bad one is worse he says. It is bone on bone and he said stay off of it as much as possible and try to lose weight which is hard to do if you can't be on your feet. He gave me a shot in my good knee and said it was getting worse. I ask a lot of questions about knee replacement and he made me feel a little better but I'm still scared to death of the pain after surgery. I'm going to try to wait untill the first of the year to do it. I just have too many responiblites in my family to do it now. I am so depressed tonight. It's not knowing what will happen from day to day thats so hard and the continual dread of the surgery. Well I'll quit complaining for tonight and go to bed. Thanks for being there.
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 07/13/2004 10:49 PM

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Well I went to the Dr. today and he took x-rays of both knees. The bad one is worse he says. It is bone on bone and he said stay off of it as much as possible and try to lose weight which is hard to do if you can't be on your feet. He gave me a shot in my good knee and said it was getting worse. I ask a lot of questions about knee replacement and he made me feel a little better but I'm still scared to death of the pain after surgery. I'm going to try to wait untill the first of the year to do it. I just have too many responiblites in my family to do it now. I am so depressed tonight. It's not knowing what will happen from day to day thats so hard and the continual dread of the surgery. Well I'll quit complaining for tonight and go to bed. Thanks for being there.
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 07/10/2004 09:34 PM

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lilmonkeyshine

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kitty it does not make you a baby. Who isnt scared of having surgery I have said everytime make sure you wake me up, you do have the option of an epidural for surgery which they leave in for a few days after surgery which then you do not have any pain. I opted not to have that done Because I had nerve blocks in the past and did not want anything in my back again.Plus there are new TKR's that are less evassive now,I unfortunatly did not have that option it is only for new knees not revisions. And give yourself some credit you are much stronger than you think. You will surprise yourself. I use meditaion for stress I sit out under the trees with nature and just veg out. Remember you need to make time for yourself everyday even if it is just a few minutes. and by doing so you will find you are less stressed.Besides who wants stress anyways it only causes more health problems : ) And Like I have said before kitty if ya feel the need please email me I am happy to help anyway possible and it wouldnt be just for you but me also. Valori
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 07/10/2004 04:33 PM

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kitty123

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Thanks for the support. I guess I'm just a 59 year old baby. Your going through a lot more than I am and you just keep on going and are there for others. I wish I could be that strong. I am so scared of post op pain, thats all I think about. I have grandkids that I worry and stress over and I am a worrier big time and I don't handle stress well. Hope you get better and Thanks again for being there. I'm there for you too anytime.
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 07/10/2004 04:33 PM

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Thanks for the support. I guess I'm just a 59 year old baby. Your going through a lot more than I am and you just keep on going and are there for others. I wish I could be that strong. I am so scared of post op pain, thats all I think about. I have grandkids that I worry and stress over and I am a worrier big time and I don't handle stress well. Hope you get better and Thanks again for being there. I'm there for you too anytime.
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 07/10/2004 04:10 PM

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Well everyone goes through this I am 39 and I refuse to ride the scooter I am a glutton for punishment I guess.Or too much pride. I am use to being a strong indpendant woman still havent gotten use to needing help.I am thinking about going back on anti depressants.I hate the thought of that ,like I have told my hubby I will deal with this my way. He said he felt bad for me,I freaked and said I do not need you or anyone else feeling sorry for me. Thats one thing I love about here I can rant and it feels good! I am not judged and nobody pitys me. I get frustrated because I watch my house turn into a disater area,my 14 yr old and 18 yr old have no clue on cleaning skills. and my 17month old grandson lives with us too.and he is a lil hurricane. my hubby works alot and really sucks at cleaning. I have been outta work for over a year now. which I hate!! I miss having my own money and I am tired of struggling to make ends meat. One income doesnt cut it. I hobble around on one crutch or none at all to try and clean. just to get things done. well at last the best I can. Just know your not alone. everyone gets embarassed and frustrated. I am still waiting for the day I wake up pain free and able to walklike a normal person again.
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 07/10/2004 02:50 PM

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It sounds to me like you couldn't be much worse off by going ahead with the TKR and chances are better than not that it will go well. Sometimes you just have to do SOMETHING - even if it is scary. As Dr. Phil says "is this WORKIN' FOR YA?" I know exactly what you mean about riding the cart and being embarrassed and also looking at the messes in the house and not being able to clean. You know, our husbands get spoiled when we are healthy and at full speed. You have to "retrain" them a little for these down times. My husband likes me to make a list of things I want him to do. He says it's not that he doesn't want to do things, he just doesn't think about it or can't remember what's most important to ME. I guess it's a Mars and Venus thing, but the list seems to work pretty good. I have found that most men are either blind to messes and dirt, or they've found if they ignore it long enough it miraculously gets done!! I was the perfectionist around here for so long, that I have had to learn tons of patience to realize my limitations. I have always done everything like I was killing snakes or something and those days are just over now at 53. Never, ever did I expect a knee replacement and chronic pain at this age. Of course, it's taken me over 3 years with 2 knee surgeries, neuropathy, arthrofibrosis and then patella infera, losing my Dad, my mother becoming a vegetable from a stroke and being on hospice for 2+ years, euthanizing 3 dogs (we're dog parents) and pulling one drowned out of our pool and a frozen shoulder for 6 months plus surgery on that to get here. Now I have rampant, painful fibrocystic lumps in my breasts for which a subcutaneous mastectomy has been recommended! I've just had to put that on hold until my shoulder recovers. Only ONE recovery at a time. It's almost gotten funny waiting for the next medical malady to surface! I'm convinced stress has a great deal to do with alot of my medical problems. The point here is not to whine, but just to let you know that you will survive. I admit to getting psychiatric help and drugs for depression which I highly recommend. I even hated to do that as I have always been so strong and able to handle anything. I got very tired of crying and feeling useless most every day. So know that there are many of us out here who understand and will offer what we can to help - if nothing else but to listen. Just ride that cart with ATTITUDE, ask for help, and give your husband a list of things you really want/need done. Just remember how many times you dusted and vacuumed around him while he was reading the paper or watching TV! Get a good book, prop your feet up and just "enjoy watching your man do housework!!!" Just remember not to criticize HOW he does it - just accept the attempt at help and thank him profusely when he's done. Men like to know they "fixed" something, if even your attitude. Hope you have a better day and weekend! Susan
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 07/10/2004 02:11 PM

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Well its me again. I just got back from town and I'm feeling pretty down. When I go shopping I have to ride a scooter just to get around in the store and for me that's embarssing and then I come home and my house needs cleaning so bad that I dread walking in the door. I would have someone come in and clean it for me but I would need to clean it first(ha ha). My husband works hard but it would be nice if he would help just a little or at least clean up after hisself. I guess I'm worrying about unimportant stuff but when your hurting and depressed the small stuff seems more important especially when you can't get out much and your just sitting there all day looking at what needs to be done and you can't do it. Well I'll shut up for now. Thanks for being there.
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 07/10/2004 02:11 PM

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Well its me again. I just got back from town and I'm feeling pretty down. When I go shopping I have to ride a scooter just to get around in the store and for me that's embarssing and then I come home and my house needs cleaning so bad that I dread walking in the door. I would have someone come in and clean it for me but I would need to clean it first(ha ha). My husband works hard but it would be nice if he would help just a little or at least clean up after hisself. I guess I'm worrying about unimportant stuff but when your hurting and depressed the small stuff seems more important especially when you can't get out much and your just sitting there all day looking at what needs to be done and you can't do it. Well I'll shut up for now. Thanks for being there.
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 07/09/2004 11:12 AM

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Hi Kittyfuson: Sorry you're having a bad time with pain. I just wanted to offer a couple of things. First, remember that people who did NOT have any problems with a TK (and there ARE alot), don't typically go to these forums. You're mostly hearing from the problem patients here. Second, before you have a TKR, find out how your surgeon will handle the pain, and ongoing pain if it happens. Also, line up a "pain specialist" in case you need one. Some doctors are quite reluctant to prescribe pain killers beyond a certain time regardless of your pain and you should have an alternative. I just had surgery for a "frozen shoulder" (adhesive capsulitis) last week and the hospital gave me a pamphlet about pain management. In summary, it said "unrelieved pain will slow your recovery" and "Addiction is EXTREMELY RARE among people treated for pain". There are many drugs and techniques to treat pain, and having a pain specialist, should you need one, may be the best way to go. You're right, it does feel better to vent. I feel bad that you don't have more outlets and support at home, but good friends and support can be found here. Don't feel bad either that others may seem to have more problems than you. Everything is relative to how it effects YOU, and that can't be compared. I've said before that I've made 2 great friends from this forum who I communicate with constantly (my "pain-pals"!). One I even talk to on the phone - sometimes for HOURS and we've never met! They are and have been more supportive than most of my family. Hang in there and keep venting!
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 07/08/2004 04:42 PM

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kitty123

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Well I'm back. My knees are hurting bad today and my pain pills aren't working to well. It's really getting to me. Every time I start feeling a little better I hear someone else's horror story about knee replacement and I get scared. I hurt so bad after my back surgery and everyone tells me knee surgery is so much worse that I can't even imagine going through it. My life seems to be on hold right now. My daughter is having some health problems and so I have to be there for her right now and it makes it hard to help her when I can't even help myself. I guess I'll get through this but it seems like it's one thing after another. Thanks for letting me vent. I feel a little better allready.
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