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 07/03/2004 09:39 PM

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spreiph

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Kittyfuson- I read your post and I just wanted to say that it is normal to be scared in a situation like this. Somtimes others won't understand what you are dealing with and how it can make you sad all the time. My only advice is to talk about it with others that have gone thru this stuff. I really felt how you described and then I started talking on these forums and it really had helped me. Hang in there!!!!Good luck
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 07/03/2004 08:13 PM

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snakeleo

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Just read your posting. Here's a story that may jolt you out of your pity party. I am 51, single, and am my own sole source of support, both FINANCIAL and EMOTIONAL. I am a soldier in the United States Army and now that I've had a total knee replacement they want to medically board me to see if I am "fit for duty". I am angry and depressed because the military doctors waited OVER A YEAR to do any type of surgery on my knee. By the time the civilian doctor got a look I had to have a total knee, NOT ACL surgery. I've spent the past 17 1/2 years serving my country, am 2 1/2 years away from retirment. If they find me unfit, out on my ass I go. AND,I just found out the other day that I have a "nodule" in my breast. Try doing it all on your own and then tell me about being "scared".
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 07/03/2004 08:13 PM

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snakeleo

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Just read your posting. Here's a story that may jolt you out of your pity party. I am 51, single, and am my own sole source of support, both FINANCIAL and EMOTIONAL. I am a soldier in the United States Army and now that I've had a total knee replacement they want to medically board me to see if I am "fit for duty". I am angry and depressed because the military doctors waited OVER A YEAR to do any type of surgery on my knee. By the time the civilian doctor got a look I had to have a total knee, NOT ACL surgery. I've spent the past 17 1/2 years serving my country, am 2 1/2 years away from retirment. If they find me unfit, out on my ass I go. AND,I just found out the other day that I have a "nodule" in my breast. Try doing it all on your own and then tell me about being "scared".
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 07/03/2004 02:27 PM

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kitty123

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I just read the post from Susan and I just wanted to say that I may have to have total knee replacement and I am so scared. It's all I think about. I am on wellbutrin and Lortabs and I still stay depressed allmost all the time. I have such a low threshold for pain and have heard so many horror storys. Sometimes I don't know if I can take much more. I am 58 and am married but he doesn't understand and not much help.
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 07/03/2004 02:27 PM

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kitty123

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I just read the post from Susan and I just wanted to say that I may have to have total knee replacement and I am so scared. It's all I think about. I am on wellbutrin and Lortabs and I still stay depressed allmost all the time. I have such a low threshold for pain and have heard so many horror storys. Sometimes I don't know if I can take much more. I am 58 and am married but he doesn't understand and not much help.
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 05/18/2004 03:31 PM

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I read your story and I think that no problem where pain is concerned is little. You are a very mature person to be able to get yourself out of all the sadness you had been feeling. I have a couple shoulder injuries and have been out of work and dealing with pain for about a year and a half. I felt all those things you described and it took me along time to adjust. I think you are remarkable. Hang in there . A friend
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 05/10/2004 08:23 PM

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gammawbecky

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Boy, I don't know about risking infection so lightly. I had an infected total knee and the "cure" is horrible. You can plan on two major surgeries - one to take the prosthesis out and one to put it back in at least 8 weeks later when the infection is cleared up. In the meanwhile, you have NO knee at all....just a hockey-puck looking thing between your bones and a non-weightbearing, totally straight leg. You get to give yourself IV antibiotics three times a day and let other people do everything else for you. I sure don't recommend it.
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 05/05/2004 10:15 AM

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lilmonkeyshine

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I just read an article in knee 1 about preventing infection during surgery. it states antibiotics given 20 mins. before surgery greatly reduces infection. you may want to print this out for your surgeon.any time you have surgery you are at risk for infection. I do not think that your surgeon should base your risk and tell you to live with the pain. After all your the one living with it not him/her
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 04/29/2004 07:33 PM

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Susan3914

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Hi to all, I'm 53 and have been through 2+ years of pretty horrific knee pain, one arthroscopy gone bad and then a partial knee replacement with continued chronic pain, limited walking, and constant swelling. It was recently diagnosed as Patella Infera for which there is no successful surgery or treatment. I'm seeking another (the 6th surgeon in 2 yrs.!) opinion, but this could be something I have to just live with. Depression from pain, lack of sleep and debilitation is a given and something all of you experiencing it should take seriously. I sought the help of a Psychiatrist and it was the best thing I could've done. He prescribed Neurontin (not a narcotic) for pain and Clonazepam or Klonipen for sleep and Elavil for depression and chronic pain also. That night was the FIRST night I slept in over 6 weeks after surgery! My ortho surgeon had given me Demoral and Lortab but neither was working. I was able to get off the narcotics completely by taking Neurontin. Elavil is an older anti-depressant that has more recently been found to help chronic pain. It does. It has also helped me "cope" much,much better with being so limited now. I wasn't doing well with that for awhile. It was just a constant emotional roller coaster, mostly driven by my pain level. One day I would cry all day, the next I'd get mad at the surgeon, the next I'd resolve to just live with the situation, and then another pity party would pop up. The Elavil has leveled all that out for the most part and life is much nicer for me, my husband, and even our DOGS! Here's a statistic that all of you in chronic pain need to pay attention to: chronic pain is the NUMBER ONE cause of suicide!! Do not take your depression lightly, or try and "suffer in silence". See a Psychiatrist because they will truly understand what you're going through and help with appropriate drugs. They are M.D.'s afterall. My doctor explained that 1)you MUST sleep when in chronic pain or it just gets worse. Your body needs sleep in order to cope with healing and pain 2)nerve pain can trigger muscle pain and spasms. 3) pain causes stress and stress causes pain. People under stress have a compromised immune system and do not heal well, plus become at risk for other diseases to move in. There is no shame in getting depressed over chronic pain and debilitation, but you need the right specialist to treat it. Ortho surgeons are generally NOT good at treating chronic pain! To the person who said something about having a line drawn above the knee to have it amputated, I understand that feeling completely. I have tossed that idea around myself and depending on how limited I stay, it could be a serious option at some point. I hope this helps someone out there. That's what these forums are so good for - sharing experiences and possibly even answers in some cases. I have communicated privately with several people from the Knee Forum and currently have one full-time "pen-pal" via email. It's so helpful to be in touch with people who truly understand knee pain, repeated surgeries, and the depression that accompanies both. It even helps sometimes to know there are people far worse off than me - although I feel so bad for them. Every post is a contribution that could make a difference to someone. Keep up the "venting" and good luck and better health to all of you. Susan
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 04/28/2004 11:47 AM

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lilmonkeyshine

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I know this sounds a lil nuts,but I am so glad I am not alone. First things first. I don't know what kind of DR wouldnt give pain killers. I have been on demoral for over a year now. I have to take it to sleep at night because of pain. My Dr understands that. I am not addicted to it. It is for pain management.I only take it at night because I need to function during the day. I usually take 150-200 mg at night. I personally think any DR who won't give pain meds has never lived with what we live with. what good are pain meds if the DR is too scared to give them? I have had 10 arthos. 2 total knees and 3 revisions going on my 4th may 19th,hopefully I had the 3rd revision done last june. found out my cement mixing bowl was not sterile.by the company who makes it. had a positive certec and a high protien count. on the 12th of may they will take out sonviol fluid to see if there are any white cells if there is then the whole thing comes out. and 8 weeks of antibiotics treatment.then yet another knee. I understand the Stress and depression because I am living through it. I keep it to myself and not say anything to my family.because I do not feel they would understand they are not going through this I am. I try and take time to meditate to get through this.I am newly 39 yrs old And too young not to be able to do the things I love so much.It is so frustrating sometimes I want to scream! it feels good to be able to talk to others going through a simular situation.it's nice to know im not alone.
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 04/11/2004 07:37 PM

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MzBalance

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I had 'simple' arthorscopic knee surgery to repair torn cartilege and clean up some severe arthritis . I had to be hospitalized 2x's and 2 IV antibiotic treatments over the last 6 months for staph infection. The infection seems to be 'gone' for now, but after 5 surgeries to clean out the infection - I have no tissue in the knee. My dr. tells me they cannot replace the knee because of the risk of another staph infection. I'm 41 yrs old and walking with crutches - hoping to get to 1 crutch?! Is there any 'hope' that I can find in this situation? Do I need to accept the condition of my legs and 'hang on' for a few YEARS until someone will 'risk' a knee replacement?
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 04/11/2004 07:37 PM

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MzBalance

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I had 'simple' arthorscopic knee surgery to repair torn cartilege and clean up some severe arthritis . I had to be hospitalized 2x's and 2 IV antibiotic treatments over the last 6 months for staph infection. The infection seems to be 'gone' for now, but after 5 surgeries to clean out the infection - I have no tissue in the knee. My dr. tells me they cannot replace the knee because of the risk of another staph infection. I'm 41 yrs old and walking with crutches - hoping to get to 1 crutch?! Is there any 'hope' that I can find in this situation? Do I need to accept the condition of my legs and 'hang on' for a few YEARS until someone will 'risk' a knee replacement?
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 04/03/2004 02:40 PM

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DMK

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I would like to reply to this comment: "I don't understand why they don't prescribe more narcotics. It's not like we're 16 year old kids just wanting it for the enjoyment! We are mature adults, who want to make it through the days, when the pain just won't stop. Do they not understand that our pain affects every aspect of our lives?" PAIN IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT ADULTS ENCOUNTER!!!! I am a 15 year old female who had ACL reconstruction surgery a week and a half ago, and I have never felt pain like that before. I may not be "a mature adult" yet, but believe it or not, I, a young teenager, would also like to make it through the day/nights when the pain won't stop!! I haven't had a full night's sleep since the surgery, because I wake up every night from the pain. At first I was very depressed, struck with feelings of hopelessness, weakness, and loneliness, but the whole experience has actually made me stronger mentally and emotionally. I have decided to stop crying and feeling sorry for myself, because that just has no use!! Reading these other stories I realize how stupid I may sound for babbling about one surgery, when some have had a countless number of them. I admire all those who have gone through such harsh procedures. But I think with any of these experiences, everyone goes through similar feelings afterwards, no matter the age or the type of surgery. All I can say is keep your head up, sadness is certainly no fun. With hard work and determination, we will all recover at some point! Good luck to everyone out there, best wishes to all of you.
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 04/03/2004 02:40 PM

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DMK

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I would like to reply to this comment: "I don't understand why they don't prescribe more narcotics. It's not like we're 16 year old kids just wanting it for the enjoyment! We are mature adults, who want to make it through the days, when the pain just won't stop. Do they not understand that our pain affects every aspect of our lives?" PAIN IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT ADULTS ENCOUNTER!!!! I am a 15 year old female who had ACL reconstruction surgery a week and a half ago, and I have never felt pain like that before. I may not be "a mature adult" yet, but believe it or not, I, a young teenager, would also like to make it through the day/nights when the pain won't stop!! I haven't had a full night's sleep since the surgery, because I wake up every night from the pain. At first I was very depressed, struck with feelings of hopelessness, weakness, and loneliness, but the whole experience has actually made me stronger mentally and emotionally. I have decided to stop crying and feeling sorry for myself, because that just has no use!! Reading these other stories I realize how stupid I may sound for babbling about one surgery, when some have had a countless number of them. I admire all those who have gone through such harsh procedures. But I think with any of these experiences, everyone goes through similar feelings afterwards, no matter the age or the type of surgery. All I can say is keep your head up, sadness is certainly no fun. With hard work and determination, we will all recover at some point! Good luck to everyone out there, best wishes to all of you.
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 02/01/2004 08:52 AM

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snakeleo

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I had a TKR on 25 November 2003. I would like to know the info on weight lifting restrictions. My doctor says there is no restriction. Another ortho doc says he advises a lifetime restriction of 40 lbs. Please shed some light on this. Thanks
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 02/01/2004 08:52 AM

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snakeleo

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I had a TKR on 25 November 2003. I would like to know the info on weight lifting restrictions. My doctor says there is no restriction. Another ortho doc says he advises a lifetime restriction of 40 lbs. Please shed some light on this. Thanks
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 10/15/2003 02:04 PM

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carrissag

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Dear Issac: I too have had problems with my left and right knees. I have had 5 replacements of my right knee and my left knee has been reconstructed twice and I suffer from a HUGE baker's cyst that is debilitating when inflammed. Enough of my woes...The best thing I have ever done was have my knee replaced. Granted there have been problems, and having 5 replacements under the age of 30 doesn't leave me in a very good position for when I am 70, 80, 90, or 100 (god willing). Anyhow, I just recently started visiting an rheumatologist along with my orthopaedic surgeon. They know each other and I trust them both equally. The OS sees me for the replaced knee and the Rheumatologists sees me for all the other mechanical bone problems I have suffered via the trials and "tibula"tions of life, AND from the biomechanics of having my skeletal systems shaken-up a bit. I don't think I have felt better! Perhaps seeing a rheumatologist as well as a OS would help you as well? Sometimes, surgery isn't always that best answer if you are young, and you've already been through soooo much with one joint recently. Give yourself time to recover. Work hard at it.... and always think of other options. Well that's my two cents worth, anyhow.
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 10/15/2003 02:04 PM

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carrissag

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Dear Issac: I too have had problems with my left and right knees. I have had 5 replacements of my right knee and my left knee has been reconstructed twice and I suffer from a HUGE baker's cyst that is debilitating when inflammed. Enough of my woes...The best thing I have ever done was have my knee replaced. Granted there have been problems, and having 5 replacements under the age of 30 doesn't leave me in a very good position for when I am 70, 80, 90, or 100 (god willing). Anyhow, I just recently started visiting an rheumatologist along with my orthopaedic surgeon. They know each other and I trust them both equally. The OS sees me for the replaced knee and the Rheumatologists sees me for all the other mechanical bone problems I have suffered via the trials and "tibula"tions of life, AND from the biomechanics of having my skeletal systems shaken-up a bit. I don't think I have felt better! Perhaps seeing a rheumatologist as well as a OS would help you as well? Sometimes, surgery isn't always that best answer if you are young, and you've already been through soooo much with one joint recently. Give yourself time to recover. Work hard at it.... and always think of other options. Well that's my two cents worth, anyhow.
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 10/15/2003 01:53 PM

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carrissag

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I am so sorry to hear this. I just got over an infection found on July 3rd, fortunately, I knew something was wrong on July 2nd and had it cleaned out on the 3rd. The surgery, the antibiotics, and the pain is horrible, and I really feel it for you. My only words of encouragement, is that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I am just feeling (now) better... not 100 percent, but better. Additionally, I don't know how true this is, but I got two more infections elsewhere in my body from all the antibiotics I was taking. Do yourself a favor, don't drink, smoke, or go out to very busy public places... getting sick while on the antibiotics and trying to get rid of the infection is NOT GOOD. Even the flu or a common cold can be 10 times worse on you while you are on the antibiotics. At least that is what happened to me. Best of luck, think positively, and work hard at getting back to normal.. it will happen. best of luck, cag
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 10/15/2003 01:53 PM

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carrissag

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I am so sorry to hear this. I just got over an infection found on July 3rd, fortunately, I knew something was wrong on July 2nd and had it cleaned out on the 3rd. The surgery, the antibiotics, and the pain is horrible, and I really feel it for you. My only words of encouragement, is that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I am just feeling (now) better... not 100 percent, but better. Additionally, I don't know how true this is, but I got two more infections elsewhere in my body from all the antibiotics I was taking. Do yourself a favor, don't drink, smoke, or go out to very busy public places... getting sick while on the antibiotics and trying to get rid of the infection is NOT GOOD. Even the flu or a common cold can be 10 times worse on you while you are on the antibiotics. At least that is what happened to me. Best of luck, think positively, and work hard at getting back to normal.. it will happen. best of luck, cag
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